GiorgioFromYuma
I'm sure this thread has been made before, but let's all discuss our best rolls. I just missed out on an hour and twenty minute roll the other day, where the shooter made 16 points before getting a 7. It got me thinking what my odds are of seeing such a roll in my lifetime, and dreaming of that monster roll that always eludes me.
My personal best roll was probably about 30 minutes. I hit about 8 sixes and 8 eights, but it was my first time at a craps table and I was only betting the pass, so I didn't profit much at all. I've been getting killed at the tables and need some happy stories to inspire me to keep going, so any stories about monster rolls you've had/seen would be appreciated.
  1. Welcome to day 2 in Las Vegas. All day i was looking for something to share with you! By the end of the night i played craps for 3 hours and it was the best.
  2. Knowing this, craps players betting the Pass Line and Odds bets love to see the shooter roll a 6 or 8 point number, because they’ll have the best chance of fading a seven out while repeating the point number – scooping up some major chips along the way.
  3. Craps is a dice game in which the players make wagers on the outcome of the roll, or a series of rolls, of a pair of dice. Players may wager money against each other (playing 'street craps') or a bank (playing 'casino craps', also known as 'table craps', or often just 'craps').Because it requires little equipment, 'street craps' can be played in informal settings.

Tuesday after class Ryan's first long roll 37! Wednesday longest roll for the day 42! Online casino Canada is a website where you will find the best Craps options.

Ahigh
Today at lunch I did some super fast random rolling and took $12 to $237. I have to admit it was a comeback and not a huge win, but I did come out ahead.
Mission146
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/12459-incredible-roll-0/#post206115
The first half of the OP in that thread describes mine.
odiousgambit
Anybody with a big roll should try to make note of how many passes he made as well as how many rolls before 7-out [both things if you can].
Just how many minutes, meh... that might not mean much at a busy table.
As for my best, 4 passes and an unknown number of total rolls before 7-out, so I can't inspire you [although I am happy when any shooter does that!] .
I have been at the table when the shooter has made about 6 passes and rolled so long and so many yo's and 12s than normal that those type bettors, including the field, were ecstatic.
As you can see, I can't be precise either. I plan to be at Harrington sometime next week and there is a daily contest for most rolls before 7-out, 'Monster Roll Craps'. So they ought to be showing rolls for each player and I can count the passes too. I think you've inspired me to make a note of passes in future, any contest or not.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
Mission146
Hey!
I just got off of a killer roll last night between 1:10a.m. and 2:40 a.m. at Wheeling Island Hotel Casino and Racetrack. I've been gambling less to protect cash because I want to pay mostly cash for my wife's college-related stuff, so I only bought in for $45 and here's what happened:
My first session went fair, but nothing too special. I was betting $5 on the PL with 2x Odds because that is the most Odds they allow. I may or may not have been betting $1.00 on the Fire Bet...don't tell The Wiz!!!
Come-Out Roll Set: 3-4
Point Established Set: Hard-Six
In any event, I established a point of four on my very first roll and made the point about five rolls later, I hit nothing but point numbers during this time. The next Come Out roll saw me establishing a point of eight which I took Odds on and made three rolls later. The following roll saw me establish a point of six which I made approximately ten rolls later. After that, I threw a Craps Three on the CO, and then established a point of Six, but sevened-out about fifteen rolls later.
In total, I went +$25, +$17, +$17, -$5, -$15 for a net gain of +$39. I made two PL Dealer Bets of $2 each during this time, and the Dealers won on both of those, so they were +$8.
I now had $80 in chips and decided to play Three-Card Poker because, I don't know why. I sat at first base and was kind of trying to hole-card, but either the dealer was pretty good or I have no goddamn idea how to hole-card, could be both. In any event, I was betting $5 on the Ante and got dealt A-K-x on my first hand, but the dealer beat me with a pair. The following hand, I got dealt K-Q-6, but the dealer (again) beat me with a pair. I was down to $60 in chips and a little bit irritated, but then I had hands good enough to play three times in a row, but the dealer never qualified, so I was back up to $75. I then played another hand in which I had K-Q-x, but the dealer beat me with an Ace.
At that point, I was back to $65 in Chips, and so I decided that Three Card Poker sucks and tipped the dealer $5.00 and quit playing. I now had $60 in chips.
I went back to the Craps Table thinking that I might still have a little left in the old hand, besides, Roulette was full and that's what I really wanted to play. This session could have been something special, but it wasn't to be. There was a guy about my age named Nick shooting with me and he had already established/made a point into the Fire Bet, but wasn't on it. He decided to Pass the Dice over to me.
By the way, at Wheeling Island, you're allowed to play the Fire Bet and nothing else if you like. I did that during one of Nick's rolls because I wanted to go get a cup of coffee, but that's the third Craps session...
Back to the second.
In my second Craps Session, I played PL with the 2x Odds again and established a point of Nine which was made almost immediately. I then established and made three more points (so it would have been a five point Fire Bet), but Nick didn't have the fire bet going when he starting shooting. Bummer. In fact, I established and made every point that Nick didn't except for Five and he had made Four.
After that happened, I established a point of six again, but sevened-out after about fifteen rolls.
I ended up +34 between my points of 6+8, then I ended up +$20 on my point of 9, and +$25 on my point of 10. That was a total of +$79, except I threw three Come Out losers at various times (Midnight, Snake Eyes, Three) and one Come Out Winner (Yo') for -$10 there. I also made four $2 PL Dealer Bets with 2x Odds so that was -$24. Overall, I ended up +$45 during this time. The Dealers won three of them, so I want to say they were about +$39.
Nick then proceeded to fire off two Seven-Winners in a row, then he established and made two points, then established the Six again and Sevened-Out. I ended up +$15 during this time because I wasn't Taking the Odds when Nick was shooting. I apologized to him, but stated that I only Take the Odds when I am shooting. I was now +$60 during my second session.
I got the dice again and threw two Seven-Winners. I followed that up by establishing and missing Eight, but the Craps Gods had smiled upon me as I had forgotten to put my Odds Bet out there. I tossed the Dealers the Red from one of the Seven-Winners and said, 'For the boys.' I now had $120 in chips.
I had quit the second time because there was space at the Roulette Table, it went from full down to three people out of nowhere. I asked for Twenty White and proceeded to play each corner of Black-29 as well as a Straight Bet on Black-29. I lost three in a row and must have been really pissed off because I forgot to tip the Croupier and went back to Craps. I now had $105 in chips.
I don't know what happened in the brief time I was playing Roulette, but a despondent Nick had clearly taken a beating, though he said my exclaimations and attitude really brought his spirits up. I don't care about the small sums of money involved in Craps, I just like to win on principle alone, so I get pretty vocal.
In any event, I Placed Nick's Point to Win, but I don't remember what it was or how much I won, so I'm not going to include that, besides that, after that happened I asked for the Placed Money back as well as the Win, then I put $5 on a PL bet and Nick threw Snake Eyes, then established and missed a point, so all of that pretty much negated.
I then went on the hand of my life for the second time this year. I made my $1 Fire Bet and my $5 PL Bet. I started out pretty well establishing a Point of Nine and making it in about Seven rolls. I then established and made a Point of Four in about another Ten rolls. I then threw Midnight followed by Snake Eyes, so I lost on those rolls. I then established and made a Point of Six in twenty rolls (I remember that one) and hit about fifteen Point Numbers in the process. The Dealers kept trying to encourage Nick to make a few Place Bets with what he had left. After that, I established a Point of Four again (ugh!) but I made it within eight rolls!!! I then established a Point of Eight and made it within a few rolls. WINNING FIRE BET-FOUR POINTS!!!
I then established a Point of Five, (which would have been the Fifth Point of the Fire Bet) and I must've gotten pretty excited because I tossed both of the dice over the Table. 'Same dice, same dice, same dice!!!', I called out, 'I'll get them, I want the same dice!!!' I ended up Sevening-Out about four rolls later, unfortunately.
I ended up going +$25 on my Fire Bet, I was +$20 on my Point of Nine, +$25 on my Point of Four, -$10 on Craps Numbers, +$17 on my Point of Six, +$25 on my other Point of Four, I Placed Six to Win at some point in the Interim and hit that and took it down so +$7, then +$17 on my Point of Eight. I was -$15 on the Point of Five that I established, and I may (SSSHHHHH!!!!!) have lost $4 on Any Craps Bets on CO's after I had thrown that Midnight & Snake Eyes back-to-back.
Overall, I would have been +$107 (or so) and would have had $212 in Chips, except I made Five $2.00 PL Bets for the dealers (One of them lost on that Midnight) and Taken $4.00 Odds on the Four that survived the CO (all of which won), so -$26 and also -$4 on Any Craps bets made for the Boys, so I was +$77 with $182 in chips. The Dealers ended up being about +$60, I think on that session.
The Pit Boss came by and announced, 'Okay, the next shooter is the last tonight!' Nick decided he wanted to shoot again, Established Nine, Sevened-Out so I lost $5.00 on that, I then tipped the Dealers my off two Whites. +$2 Dealers.
I ended up being $175 in Chips, so +$130 on all my play, which included tokes. The Dealers (including Three-Card Poker) ended up being +$119 between winning bets and straight tokes, so that always feels pretty good to be able to do that. I will say that while the property may have some other imperfections, Wheeling Island Hotel, Casino, Racetrack does have some excellent dealers.
I tipped $5 when I cashed in my chips, and then as I was walking by the Roulette Table and the Croupier was doing whatever you do to close a Roulette Table for the night, I remembered that I didn't tip her and tossed her a $5.00 bill. I ended up +$120 on my play and the Dealers were then +$124 in bets and straight tokes along with +$5.00 for the cage.
Great times!
I then switched to Video Keno and hit it for a bunch of small wins that added up to another +$120, then I stuck $20 in a Quick Hits Platinum Machine, lost, stuck in another $20 and ended up +$130, overall, mostly due to the result of two pretty good sets of Free Games. I quit after hitting the 5QH Progressive for $26.xx because it was that and 7QH (mostly) that had that machine in positive territory.
I went back to Cleopatra Keno and doubled a $20.00 bill into $40.00. I ticketed out and stuck the $20 in my wallet and put the original $20 back in and lost it, so all done.
Ultimately, +$370 for the night (after tokes) and it would have probably been nearly $500 if I hadn't toked anything, but there's nothing better at the Tables than winning the boys money. Trust me, your tokes will be appreciated at Wheeling Island more than anywhere else I have ever been.
EDIT: I originally typed +415 for the night instead of +370, that's because I forgot to subtract (rather, accidentally added) my initial buy-in at the Tables, still a great night!
nickdel

I've been getting killed at the tables and need some happy stories to inspire me.


Maybe you need some more unhappy stories to inspire you to take a break, lolBest Craps Roll
mdh

Hey!
I just got off of a killer roll last night between 1:10a.m. and 2:40 a.m. at Wheeling Island Hotel Casino and Racetrack. I've been gambling less to protect cash because I want to pay mostly cash for my wife's college-related stuff, so I only bought in for $45 and here's what happened:
My first session went fair, but nothing too special. I was betting $5 on the PL with 2x Odds because that is the most Odds they allow. I may or may not have been betting $1.00 on the Fire Bet...don't tell The Wiz!!!
Come-Out Roll Set: 3-4
Point Established Set: Hard-Six
In any event, I established a point of four on my very first roll and made the point about five rolls later, I hit nothing but point numbers during this time. The next Come Out roll saw me establishing a point of eight which I took Odds on and made three rolls later. The following roll saw me establish a point of six which I made approximately ten rolls later. After that, I threw a Craps Three on the CO, and then established a point of Six, but sevened-out about fifteen rolls later.
In total, I went +$25, +$17, +$17, -$5, -$15 for a net gain of +$39. I made two PL Dealer Bets of $2 each during this time, and the Dealers won on both of those, so they were +$8.
I now had $80 in chips and decided to play Three-Card Poker because, I don't know why. I sat at first base and was kind of trying to hole-card, but either the dealer was pretty good or I have no goddamn idea how to hole-card, could be both. In any event, I was betting $5 on the Ante and got dealt A-K-x on my first hand, but the dealer beat me with a pair. The following hand, I got dealt K-Q-6, but the dealer (again) beat me with a pair. I was down to $60 in chips and a little bit irritated, but then I had hands good enough to play three times in a row, but the dealer never qualified, so I was back up to $75. I then played another hand in which I had K-Q-x, but the dealer beat me with an Ace.
At that point, I was back to $65 in Chips, and so I decided that Three Card Poker sucks and tipped the dealer $5.00 and quit playing. I now had $60 in chips.
I went back to the Craps Table thinking that I might still have a little left in the old hand, besides, Roulette was full and that's what I really wanted to play. This session could have been something special, but it wasn't to be. There was a guy about my age named Nick shooting with me and he had already established/made a point into the Fire Bet, but wasn't on it. He decided to Pass the Dice over to me.
By the way, at Wheeling Island, you're allowed to play the Fire Bet and nothing else if you like. I did that during one of Nick's rolls because I wanted to go get a cup of coffee, but that's the third Craps session...
Back to the second.
In my second Craps Session, I played PL with the 2x Odds again and established a point of Nine which was made almost immediately. I then established and made three more points (so it would have been a five point Fire Bet), but Nick didn't have the fire bet going when he starting shooting. Bummer. In fact, I established and made every point that Nick didn't except for Five and he had made Four.
After that happened, I established a point of six again, but sevened-out after about fifteen rolls.
I ended up +34 between my points of 6+8, then I ended up +$20 on my point of 9, and +$25 on my point of 10. That was a total of +$79, except I threw three Come Out losers at various times (Midnight, Snake Eyes, Three) and one Come Out Winner (Yo') for -$10 there. I also made four $2 PL Dealer Bets with 2x Odds so that was -$24. Overall, I ended up +$45 during this time. The Dealers won three of them, so I want to say they were about +$39.
Nick then proceeded to fire off two Seven-Winners in a row, then he established and made two points, then established the Six again and Sevened-Out. I ended up +$15 during this time because I wasn't Taking the Odds when Nick was shooting. I apologized to him, but stated that I only Take the Odds when I am shooting. I was now +$60 during my second session.
I got the dice again and threw two Seven-Winners. I followed that up by establishing and missing Eight, but the Craps Gods had smiled upon me as I had forgotten to put my Odds Bet out there. I tossed the Dealers the Red from one of the Seven-Winners and said, 'For the boys.' I now had $120 in chips.
I had quit the second time because there was space at the Roulette Table, it went from full down to three people out of nowhere. I asked for Twenty White and proceeded to play each corner of Black-29 as well as a Straight Bet on Black-29. I lost three in a row and must have been really pissed off because I forgot to tip the Croupier and went back to Craps. I now had $105 in chips.
I don't know what happened in the brief time I was playing Roulette, but a despondent Nick had clearly taken a beating, though he said my exclaimations and attitude really brought his spirits up. I don't care about the small sums of money involved in Craps, I just like to win on principle alone, so I get pretty vocal.
In any event, I Placed Nick's Point to Win, but I don't remember what it was or how much I won, so I'm not going to include that, besides that, after that happened I asked for the Placed Money back as well as the Win, then I put $5 on a PL bet and Nick threw Snake Eyes, then established and missed a point, so all of that pretty much negated.
I then went on the hand of my life for the second time this year. I made my $1 Fire Bet and my $5 PL Bet. I started out pretty well establishing a Point of Nine and making it in about Seven rolls. I then established and made a Point of Four in about another Ten rolls. I then threw Midnight followed by Snake Eyes, so I lost on those rolls. I then established and made a Point of Six in twenty rolls (I remember that one) and hit about fifteen Point Numbers in the process. The Dealers kept trying to encourage Nick to make a few Place Bets with what he had left. After that, I established a Point of Four again (ugh!) but I made it within eight rolls!!! I then established a Point of Eight and made it within a few rolls. WINNING FIRE BET-FOUR POINTS!!!
I then established a Point of Five, (which would have been the Fifth Point of the Fire Bet) and I must've gotten pretty excited because I tossed both of the dice over the Table. 'Same dice, same dice, same dice!!!', I called out, 'I'll get them, I want the same dice!!!' I ended up Sevening-Out about four rolls later, unfortunately.
I ended up going +$25 on my Fire Bet, I was +$20 on my Point of Nine, +$25 on my Point of Four, -$10 on Craps Numbers, +$17 on my Point of Six, +$25 on my other Point of Four, I Placed Six to Win at some point in the Interim and hit that and took it down so +$7, then +$17 on my Point of Eight. I was -$15 on the Point of Five that I established, and I may (SSSHHHHH!!!!!) have lost $4 on Any Craps Bets on CO's after I had thrown that Midnight & Snake Eyes back-to-back.
Overall, I would have been +$107 (or so) and would have had $212 in Chips, except I made Five $2.00 PL Bets for the dealers (One of them lost on that Midnight) and Taken $4.00 Odds on the Four that survived the CO (all of which won), so -$26 and also -$4 on Any Craps bets made for the Boys, so I was +$77 with $182 in chips. The Dealers ended up being about +$60, I think on that session.
The Pit Boss came by and announced, 'Okay, the next shooter is the last tonight!' Nick decided he wanted to shoot again, Established Nine, Sevened-Out so I lost $5.00 on that, I then tipped the Dealers my off two Whites. +$2 Dealers.
I ended up being $175 in Chips, so +$130 on all my play, which included tokes. The Dealers (including Three-Card Poker) ended up being +$119 between winning bets and straight tokes, so that always feels pretty good to be able to do that. I will say that while the property may have some other imperfections, Wheeling Island Hotel, Casino, Racetrack does have some excellent dealers.
I tipped $5 when I cashed in my chips, and then as I was walking by the Roulette Table and the Croupier was doing whatever you do to close a Roulette Table for the night, I remembered that I didn't tip her and tossed her a $5.00 bill. I ended up +$120 on my play and the Dealers were then +$124 in bets and straight tokes along with +$5.00 for the cage.
Great times!
I then switched to Video Keno and hit it for a bunch of small wins that added up to another +$120, then I stuck $20 in a Quick Hits Platinum Machine, lost, stuck in another $20 and ended up +$130, overall, mostly due to the result of two pretty good sets of Free Games. I quit after hitting the 5QH Progressive for $26.xx because it was that and 7QH (mostly) that had that machine in positive territory.
I went back to Cleopatra Keno and doubled a $20.00 bill into $40.00. I ticketed out and stuck the $20 in my wallet and put the original $20 back in and lost it, so all done.
Ultimately, +$370 for the night (after tokes) and it would have probably been nearly $500 if I hadn't toked anything, but there's nothing better at the Tables than winning the boys money. Trust me, your tokes will be appreciated at Wheeling Island more than anywhere else I have ever been.
EDIT: I originally typed +415 for the night instead of +370, that's because I forgot to subtract (rather, accidentally added) my initial buy-in at the Tables, still a great night!

I love living my craps fantasizes thru someone elses reviews. Nice.
odiousgambit
Much of a trip to Wheeling? Anything more local on the way?

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the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
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' I love living my craps fantasizes thru someone elses reviews. Nice. '
Easier on the wallet too !
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
Mission146

Much of a trip to Wheeling? Anything more local on the way?


It doesn't get any more local for me, I don't want to get too specific on my location, but it is easily the closest casino to me.
Vultures can't be choosers.
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Craps isn’t like blackjack, poker, or sports betting, where there are clearly defined skill elements that separate good and bad players. Instead, craps is widely considered a game that deals with dice probabilities and luck.

This makes it difficult to determine the best craps player in the world.

Figuring out the world’s top craps player largely depends upon if you believe in an advantage play technique called controlled shooting (a.k.a. dice control).

Let’s discuss the merits of dice control along with those who are considered to be the world’s best players. We’ll also cover three amateur players who’ve set records and crush casinos.

How Do You Determine a Great Craps Player?

Craps strategy revolves around making the right bets. Moreover, there’s nothing separating players beyond who makes wagers with the lowest house edge.

This means that you could walk into a casino and identify the top players based on who’s making pass line bets and backing them with odds.

But there exists a dice control community who believes that you can influence dice roll probabilities.

These controlled shooters claim that one can change the outcome by holding the dice in a specific manner and practicing one’s toss. This concept is steeped in the logic of sports like bowling or pool, where one can improve their technique and results over time.

To believe in dice control, you also have to believe that it’s possible to influence probabilities when throwing dice off a rubberized, diamond patterned wall. And if you think that controlled shooting is real, then this is definitely a way to determine the world’s best craps player.

Is Controlled Shooting Real?

The biggest problem with controlled shooting is that it’s not easily measured like blackjack card counting or poker. These games offer tangible evidence showing that skilled card counters and poker players make long term profits.

Dice control is different, though, because the jury is out on whether this technique is even real. Furthermore, land based casinos don’t monitor controlled shooters like they do card counters.

Controlled shooters don’t claim to be able to influence results on every roll. But they do purport that dice probabilities can be manipulated through this practice.

A pair of dice offers 36 combinations, including six different ways to make a 7. A dice control expert’s goal is to beat the odds and give themselves a long-term advantage.

Here’s an example:

  • The average player rolls a 7 on six out of 36 tosses (6:1 ratio).
  • If you’re skilled enough to throw five 7s, then your ratio is 6:25:1.
  • This is more than enough to beat the house edge on bets that involve avoiding 7s.

Controlled shooting begins with setting the dice, or holding them in a specific manner. There are numerous ways to set the dice.

One of the most popular ways is the 3 V shape, where one holds the dice so that the threes form of a “V.” This conceals the 7s while showing other probabilities like a six (5 & 1), hard six (3 & 3), eight (6 & 2), and hard eight (4 & 4).

Once you’re comfortable with your set, you should begin practicing your roll. The goal is to develop a toss that keeps the dice tight and hits the back wall with minimal force.

If you can do this, then you’ll have a much better shot at throwing the dice with consistency and producing desired results. Many dice control advocates rig a homemade craps table so that they can practice away from the casino.

Of course, whether you go to this much effort depends upon if you truly believe in controlled shooting. And it’s very hard to prove that dice control actually works.

Dominic LoRiggio may be the World’s Best Craps Player

Much of what goes into determining the top craps player depends on if you believe in dice control. I’ll suspend disbelief while discussing some of the world’s most notable craps players.

Dominic “The Dominator” LoRiggio is often given credit for being the top controlled shooter.

LoRiggio has authored several books, including Golden Touch Dice Control Revolution! – Win at Craps Using a Controlled Throw, and is a renowned expert on dice control.

LoRiggio’s gambling career began in the late 1980s as a card counter. He eventually became interested in craps after reading multiple books by Frank Scoblete.

He started practicing controlled shooting in the late 90s. LoRiggio says that it took approximately six months of practice before he became really good.

He met Scoblete on the Las Vegas craps tables and the pair began playing together. LoRiggio recalled how they each rolled for half an hour straight during their first session together.

LoRiggio preaches practice regarding controlled shooting. And he avidly suggests that you can influence results, even with casinos requiring that your dice tosses hit the back wall.

Most of the tales involving LoRiggio’s success come from himself, Scoblete, and other controlled shooting experts.

The Dominator says that he once had 56 straight rolls before the first 7 came up. LoRiggio also says that he had one session where he rolled 30, 33, and 38 consecutive times back to back to back.

Thanks to his reputation as a craps master, LoRiggio was once featured in a History Channel special along with Scoblete.

LoRiggio says that the show made it wrongly seem like he was part of a dice control team. But he also praises them for doing an accurate job on portraying his strategy and how he acts in the casino.

Today, LoRiggio teaches Golden Arm Touch seminars with Scoblete to make a living. He also remains a staunch supporter of controlled shooting.

Other Notable Craps Players

Frank Scoblete

As mentioned above, Scoblete is another famed craps player and dice control expert. Scoblete lays claim to an 89-roll streak without a 7 being rolled.

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While Scoblete is a respected craps player, he’s even better known as an author.

Some of his books include Beat the Craps out of the Casinos, Golden Touch Blackjack Revolution, and Beat the One-Armed Bandits.

Scoblete often speaks of a mysterious craps legend named the “Captain”.

He claims that the Captain is the greatest craps player he’s ever seen. Scoblete references a time when the Captain tossed the dice 147 consecutive times before seven-ing out.

Richard Favela

Richard Favela was featured in a 2017 LA Times piece about controlled shooting.

Favela has earned the Golden Arm award four times in his career. Anybody who’s rolled for one hour or more is eligible for this honor.

“If you place the dice a certain way, the odds of throwing a seven are less,” says Favela.

“You see a lot of people just throwing the dice any which way and there’s just hoping on luck. But when you try and control the dice, it works.”

Favela also claims that he “never lost” within the first eight years that he started playing at the California Casino & Hotel.

Garton Mau

Garton Mau was introduced in the LA Times article as a 4-time Golden Arm champion.

He proved his skills to the media by producing 72 consecutive rolls without seven-ing out. His run that night lasted nearly an hour.

The multi winner of California Casino’s Golden Arm tournament continues to play around the Vegas area.

Three Amateurs Who Crushed Craps

Patricia Demauro

Many craps controlled shooters brag about their long-lasting rolls. But the longest streak in history belongs to a complete amateur named Patricia Demauro.

According to Time, Demauro rolled for 154 straight times at Atlantic City’s Borgata Hotel Casino& Spa on May 23, 2009. She lasted for 4 hours and 18 minutes, breaking the world record for both the most consecutive rolls and the longest time rolling.

Stanford University statistics Professor Thomas Cover says that the odds of this happening are a one in 1.56 trillion. Your odds are far better of winning the lottery (one in 100 million) or being struck by lightning (one in a million).

“Let’s say we have a million gamblers trying a thousand events at any one time,” said Cover. “That’s a billion different rolls of craps.” Out of a billion different games, the probability of getting an event that special is reduced to one in 1,000. “It’s not out of the realm of possibility.”

What makes the story more amazing is that Demauro did all this on just her second ever craps session.

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The New Jersey grandmother went to the Borgata with her friend, John Capra. She initially started playing penny slot machines, only to later try craps with Capra after she got bored.

Demauro received the dice at 8:13pm and started with a bankroll worth $100. She didn’t even know the best wagers and relied on Capra’s advice.

Demauro established a point number of eight. And this is where her journey began since she didn’t roll a seven until 12:21am.

“There was a woman there, and we happened to catch each other’s eyes,” Demauro says, “She smiled at me, and I smiled and said, ‘I don’t know how to play the game.'”

Her record of 156 straight rolls is both an official and unofficial record.

The previous unofficial record was set by the Captain in 2005 when he tossed 147 straight times (as per Scoblete). The official record is 118 rolls by a player named Stanley Fujitake in 1989.

Demauro wouldn’t say how much money she made. However, experts believe that she likely turned her initial $100 bankroll into hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Stanley Fujitake

Before Patricia Demauro, Stanley Fujitake was the record setting amateur who defied all odds. He rolled 118 consecutive times before seven-ing out, which became the official casino record at the time.

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The Oahu native was playing craps at the California Casino & Hotel on May 28, 1989. His legendary streak began with a $5 bet on pass line.

Fujitake began increasing his pass line bets as he continued rolling winners. He increased his wager to the $1,000 table maximum to take full advantage of the hot streak.

Guido Metzger, who was dealing at a nearby table that night, noticed how more and more people began squeezing onto Fujitake’s table.

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“They had trouble keeping up with the chip payouts that night,” said Metzger, who now manages Boyd Gaming’s downtown Vegas casinos.

“My table was empty. But there were at least 30 to 40 people trying to place bets at his table. They couldn’t get fills to the table fast enough and had to start issuing scrip [casino credit] because not enough people were going to the cage and cashing in their chips.”

Fujitake had rolled for almost three hours before his streak finally came to an end.

“Half an hour is average, over an hour is amazing, but more than three hours is totally astounding,” said California casino manager John Repetti at the time.

Fujitake earned $30,000 on what started with a simple $5 bet. The casino paid another $750,000 in winnings to other players who made bets on his rolls.

Fujitake passed away in 2000, but his legend still lives on in the craps community.

Anonymous High Roller Who Won $5.3 Million at Tropicana Atlantic City

In June 2011, a craps high roller won $5.8 million from the Tropicana Casino and Resort. This came just months after famed blackjack player Don Johnson burned the Atlantic City casino for $5.8 million.

Tony Rodio, Tropicana’s CEO, spoke with the Press of Atlantic City about the matter. And he said that the player got hot during a six-hour craps session.

The high roller was really excited about the win and left a $150,000 tip that was divided up among the Tropicana dealers.

Rodio didn’t give the craps player’s name for privacy purposes. But he did say that it isn’t Johnson, who went on a $15 million blackjack win streak in 2010 and ’11.

The CEO added that the craps player will be invited back any time they want. The anonymous winner was betting $100,000 at the time of their windfall.

Tropicana is known as a destination for high stakes gamblers. And they kept this tradition going by inviting the $5.3 million winner back.

Can You Play Craps like the World’s Best?

Let’s assume that dice control doesn’t really work. If this is the case, then you can play like any of the world’s best craps players simply by making the right bets.

But what wagers do you need to make to lower the house edge? Let’s start with the two basic craps bets:

  • Pass line = 1.41% house edge
  • Don’t pass line = 1.36% house edge

How Does Pass Line Work?

A pass line bet is placed on the come-out roll, which is the first roll of a new round.

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Pass line wins when a 7 or 11 is tossed on the come out, and it loses when a 2, 3, or 12 are thrown. If you roll any other number (4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10), a point is established.

You then need the shooter to toss the point number before a 7 in order to win your pass line bet. This wager pays 1:1 and has 251:244 odds of winning.

How does Don’t Pass Line Work?

A don’t pass line bet is also placed on the come-out roll. Don’t pass line wins when a 2 or 3 is rolled, loses when a 7 or 11 is tossed, and pushes when a 12 is rolled.

Any other number establishes a point. And you need a 7 to be rolled before the point number to win.

Don’t pass line pays 1:1 for a win and offers 976:949 odds of winning.

Back These Bets with Odds

Pass line and don’t pass line already offer you a good chance to win. But you can lower the house edge even further by backing these bets with odds.

Odds is a side wager that you put behind either pass line or don’t pass line once the point is established. You should notify the dealer before putting an odds wager behind your original pass line or don’t pass line bet.

The best thing about odds is that it doesn’t have a house edge and pays at true odds of winning. The payouts depend upon if you’re backing pass line (a.k.a. “laying odds”) or don’t pass line (a.k.a. “laying odds”).

Here are the payouts for when you place odds behind a pass line wager:

  • 2 to 1 on point numbers of 4 and 10.
  • 3 to 2 on points of 5 and 9.
  • 6 to 5 on points of 6 and 8.

Here are payouts for when you put odds behind a don’t pass line bet to:

  • 1 to 2 for point numbers of 4 and 10.
  • 2 to 3 for points of 5 and 9.
  • 5 to 6 for points of 6 and 8.

The amount of odds that you can bet differs based on the casino. Many casinos have 5x or fewer odds.
A select few Vegas casinos offer 20x odds and above. These include Main Street Station (20x odds) and the Cromwell (100x).

Ideally, you’ll take the highest odds you can get because this lowers the house edge more. The table below shows how low the house advantage can be when you take more odds:

OddsPass Line/ComeDon’t Pass Line/Don’t Come
0x1.41% house edge1.36% house edge
1x0.848%0.682%
2x0.606%0.455%
Full Double Odds0.572%0.431%
3x0.471%0.341%
3x 4x 5x0.374%0.273%
5x0.326%0.227%
10x0.184%0.124%
20x0.099%0.065%
100x0.021%0.014%

The obvious drawback is that you have to bet more money when you take higher odds. And even without a house advantage, this gets really expensive.

For example, you’d need to bet an extra $200 and put 20x odds behind a $10 wager. But if you can afford to take the highest odds, then it’ll make you more likely to win and be a better player.

Conclusion

Much of what goes into determining the world’s best craps player depends upon whether you believe in controlled shooting.

Those who believe can point to Dominic LoRiggio as the top player. After all, he has the strongest reputation among the control shooting community.

Other notable players who can challenge for the top spot include Frank Scoblete, Richard Favela, and Garton Mau.
If you don’t believe in controlled shooting, then anybody who makes the best craps wagers can be a top player. This involves making a pass line or don’t pass line bet backed with high odds.

The most serious craps player should head to Las Vegas and take advantage of the highest odds they can. Or you can simply bet whatever odds you can afford.

In any case, craps offers a low house edge that can make anybody feel like a pro.

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